cross posted at truthaction
imho, "voice morphing" is the new "space beams" and Nicholas is right about Nafeez Ahmed http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq37.html
“No Phone Calls on 9/11?
a trick to separate 9/11 family members from truthersâ€
http://www.oilempire.us/no-phone.html
Very relevant questions raised in this thread; how could “they†have gotten samples of all those voices and created conversations that fooled all those family members? Extremely unlikely that could happen, or that it would be tried. And besides that, why go into theorizing at all? As the quote Arabesque linked shows, he 1) knows there's no need and 2) knows it makes an easy target and 3) also, he’s way more than smart enough to know the voice morphing doesn't make sense 4) and has not been proven 5) is not easily proven 6) not proven that it’s the most likely theory 7) not proven that simpler and more feasible and likely theories have been ruled out, and it’s as well accepted among his peers as space beams and no planes.
What good comes from claiming that the damage at the Pentagon is inconsistent with a 757 crash? Griffin is aware that a credible case for a 757 has been made by serious researchers that he quotes, like Hoffman and Jones. There's no actual evidence that anything other than a 757 hit the Pentagon, and there's a lot of evidence it was a 757. At most someone could say the public photos and video are inconclusive; then isn't the appropriate thing to demand the release of ALL evidence, along with testimony from relevant people under oath so the public can see for ourselves? Why claim/imply it likely was NOT a 757, i.e. a missile or warplane, without hard evidence? And why no acknowledgement that this view is controversial in the 9/11 Truth Movement- and that the most credible researchers have all rejected the claim?
Why go there? Official statements and actions contradict what we’re told, the govt is sitting on mountains of evidence already requested and has never given a credible explanation for how 9/11 happened; we don’t need to explain what happened, We the People, the Citizens need answers- now even the 9/11 Commission and their staff all need to testify in public under oath.
Griffin is a Phd Professor emeritus, author or editor of over 30 books. His several 9/11 books contain hundreds of footnotes, and in total probably amount to thousands of hours of research, writing and documentation. From the way Griffin explains his approach in his introductions, and the detailed way he analyzes and deconstructs evidence and questions, it's obvious he understands how to weigh evidence, witnesses, sources etc. for relevance and credibility. Griffin's 9/11 books contain numerous references to numerous credible 9/11 researchers, mainstream media and govt. statements and documents. They are also riddled with references to holocaust deniers/racists like May, Hufschmid, Bollyn, etc. and people who promote bogus info, like Fetzer, Reynolds, Rowland Morgan, etc. I'm a 1st year student at a community college and all my teachers have standards for source citation in the papers we turn in; i find it extremely unlikely Griffin doesn't know how badly this reflects on him and his books, and by association the 9/11 Truth Movement.
I own 4 Griffin books and had decided i was just gonna boycott his books after getting Debunking, but i'm thinking of getting his new one expressly to see what he's done and write a review of it. He has a very high profile, is pushing bogus theories, references bogus sources and is stubbornly committed to doing so, even after numerous sincere 9/11 truth activists have pointed out the problems to him, privately and publicly. The words Arabesque quoted shows he understands, yet he persists. How can his book and tour reflect well on him or the 9/11 Truth movement?
David Ray Griffin: still promotes "no plane" hoax, promotes Holocaust deniers as credible sources
distrusts the hundreds of eyewitnesses who saw Flight 77 hit the Pentagon or cleaned up the plane parts afterwards
http://www.oilempire.us/griffin.html
To counter the false impressions of 9/11 Truth that are being sown being sown, what do you think of any of these ideas?
1) Publish more articles critiquing his work, the good and bad, and encourage others to do so; I could only find the one at oilempire.us
2) Circulate an open letter/petition among his peers (and/or all truth activists) regarding corrections that need to be made, problems with his sources/claims, etc.- this could be published at JOS911.com; get Griffin on public record as to why he’s saying and doing these things.
3) Post and ask other truth activists to post reviews of his latest book and other books on Amazon, etc. acknowledging Griffin’s good points, but letting readers know that his views on voice morphing, no 757 and referencing certain people is rejected by the majority of people who question the OCT.