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Anti-9/11 truth exposes itself! Possible intel op? (2 posts)

  1. truthmover
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    Anti-9/11 truth exposes itself! Possible intel op?

    This is really far out. Check this. We protested at the debut of United 93 in NYC, and the anti-loose change crew was there handing our flyers attacking the movement. We saw one of the same people at the GZ - 9/11/06 rally. I got really curious, and started looking into it. First of all, I found a picture of the guy at Flickr. His name is Mark.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyctours/242158290/in...

    It turns out that the anti-9/11 folks took lots of pictures that day, and put them up at Flickr with really negative tag lines. You can look at all of them here.

    http://www.truthmove.org/groundzero.html

    Later doing a search for these people online I found this forum post.

    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=63800

    It is written by Gravy 2004, who also posted pictures to Flickr. Notice the website where the comment is posted. The James Randi Educational Foundation. Skeptics? More like an obvioius CIA front. James Randi has been debunking pseudo-science for the last 40 years, writing dozens of books about ghosts, big foot, and and UFOs. That in itself is no problem. But it is apparent that his intention is only to debunk popular myths, and not to question any institutional deceptions. He promotes a mainstream version of skepticsm that allows its followers to feel insightful, and yet safe. No paradigm shift required. Now who does that, and why?

    Here's the catch, and I mean no disrespect, but am only relating what I read at Wikipedia. William Rodriguez used to work very closely with James Randi. Rodriguez was specifically adept at making himself welcome in a community to be debunked with the intention of researching is weaknesses from within. I really don't know what to say. I wonder what Rodriguez has to say about his old mentor.

    This whole thing stinks to high heaven. I honestly don't believe that these people could claim to be skeptical and generate such a pile of weak analysis. This effort appears to have emerged very recently, with many sites popping up at once in a coordinated attack. I suppose that its possible that they are just serious mainstream history and science nerds. But their work is not nearly academic enough to suggest a seriously skeptical approach. I suspect something a bit more nefarious.

    Let's all keep our eyes on these guys, and start tearing down their crappy science. Let's tear down some of our crappy science while we're at it. TRUTH!!!

    International Truth Movement http://www.truthmove.org

    Posted 18 years ago #
  2. truthmover
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    Here's their response to my post. Check out the comments.

    http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/09/when-...

    In fairness, I wasn't being totally serious when I said that Randi's project was a CIA operation. I was trying to highlight how institutional his work appears to be. I certainly am not familiar enough with his work to make such a claim.

    I'm really not sure what the anti-truth brigade is really all about. I've read some of their papers debunking our claims, and they sound no better than some of our wilder conspiracy buffs on a tear. 'No planes' as 'no conspiracy'. And I'm gunna guess that none of them could stand up to five minutes of debate against Alex Jones, or Mike Ruppert.

    I'm not convinced that this endeavor has a positive intent. These people have been nothing but abbrasive and distracting since they showed up very recently. If they really wanted to have a debate, they wouldn't call themselves, Screw Loose Change. This is a targetted attack on the most popular piece of 9/11 media, that hopes to draw the skeptical away from an independent review of the facts. Oh, they've got answers for everything alright. But they lead people back to the security of the normative view. Don't worry, 9/11 wasn't an inside job. How comforting.

    At present, the 9/11 truth movment is so much bigger, and even dare I say more reputable than any independent group trying to attack us. The mainstream media has got your angle covered just fine. And yet, as you know, this movement is peeking through the cracks. We are getting close to a critical mass in this country ready question the official account, and even the mainstream media, in all its shameful complicity, isn't stopping us.

    Make way for the truth.

    Posted 18 years ago #

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