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Recommended Documentary: Das Netz (The Net): "The Unabomber, LSD and Internet (7 posts)

  1. truthmod
    Administrator

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Netz

    Makes you wonder about the Unabomber case and the whole direction of technology and the internet. Kaczynski was an MK-ULTRA subject at Harvard, codenamed "Lawful."

    Here's a video with interview with David Kaczynski. Looks fairly "conspiratorial," but I haven't watched the whole thing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kORwAJQ1LU8

    Posted 16 years ago #
  2. truthmod
    Administrator

    Please note (DIANE) that I am not endorsing any of these sites or articles, simply exploring them and offering others to do the same.

    There are actually very few sites questioning the Unabomber story

    http://www.carpenoctem.tv/cons/unabomber.html

    http://www.unabombers.com/

    Posted 16 years ago #
  3. NicholasLevis
    Member

    Huh? Where was (DIANE)?

    Posted 16 years ago #
  4. truthmod
    Administrator

    Diane wastes a lot of time.

    http://www.truthmove.org/forum/topic/660?replies=8

    http://activistnyc.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/the-re...

    Anti-Illuminism seems to pervade the 9/11 Truth movement, at least here in New York. We Are Change is dedicated to the anti-Illuminist ideology of Alex Jones. And it is easy to see how We Are Change incubated in New York 9/11 Truth, whose goals and outreach are more single-mindedly focused on 9/11 issues, but whose group culture seems to be informally pervaded by anti-Illuminism. Even TruthMove, a left-leaning group which is sharply critical of the right wing tendencies of We Are Change, and which has griped endlessly about the anti-Jew bigotry they’ve found in some of the literature on the table at Sunday night meetings of New York 9/11 Truth, nevertheless seems to have endorsed some Satanic panic. (See Bush Gives Horned Hand Sign During 9/11 Moment of Silence. Zooming in on Bush’s hand in the photo, it’s NOT even a horned hand sign! But the topic number in the URL was just 6 short of 666…. Oh, well….)

    Posted 16 years ago #
  5. chrisc
    Member

    Ages ago I watched the snowshoe films short on this:

    http://www.archive.org/details/dkazinmkult

    The blurb about it on their site:

    THE UNABOMBER: HE WASN’T PARANOID, HE WAS CONSPIRED AGAINST -- David Kaczynski reveals the MK-ULTRA-CIA mind control program that brother Theodore Kaczynski (dubbed the Unabomber by the FBI) was unwittingly a part of for three years at Harvard, and then at the University of Michigan and probably U.C. Stanford. In recalling some of the details of his brother’s involvement in the covert behavior modification program, David Kaczynski says of his older brother, “In a sense, he wasn’t paranoid; he was in a sense conspired against.” Video offers hints into the Project Paperclip-generated mind control program that Kaczynski along with thousands of others (universities, mental institutions, prisons, the military...) were victims of. For details see Walter Bowart’s 1978 privished (book sabotaged by publisher) book, Operation Mind Control: Our Secret Government’s War Against It’s Own People and Susan Ford’s 1999 book, Thanks for the Memories. Chautauqua, NY July 26, 2005 (more: fnb#92 http://www.snowshoefilms.com/filmmakersnb92.html )
    http://www.snowshoefilms.com/featured.html

    It's worth mentioning that although Snowshoe Documentary Films have done some great stuff they also have made quite a few Fetzer films and suchlike......

    Posted 16 years ago #
  6. chrisc
    Member

    Ahh, it's the same film as on Youtube!

    Posted 16 years ago #
  7. truthmover
    Administrator

    First of all, while we have obviously had our disagreements with Diane in the past, and continue to wish her the benefits of brevity, we also acknowledge that she is doing some constructive work as a part of our research community.


    I think this documentary is really quite profound in its implications. Ultimately it implies that Kaczynski was used as a pawn to stigmatize any retreat from the modern ubiquity of technology. The documentary does not suggest that he was not the Unabomber, but that he was subjected to mind control experiments at Harvard, and that his actions were either a result of those experiments, or a reactionary response to his treatment at the hands of establishment scientists.

    One issue raised in the documentary is something I have not heard addressed in many places. It related the close relationship between the academic social science community and the origins of the counter-cultural movement during the sixties. Not the civil-rights movement or the anti-war movement, but the post-modern, psychedelic, hippie experience that ultimately resulted in a bunch of people no less married to progress and prosperity than those whom they considered "square" at the time.

    I couldn't really summarize the movie very well, but I do recommend watching it, and considering the role cybernetics has played in the development of modern society.

    Posted 16 years ago #

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