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States of Fear: Science or Politics? - Michael Crichton (11 posts)

1. DBLS
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   States of Fear: Science or Politics? - Michael Crichton http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2795753336...

   Book: "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton, bestselling author whose works include Jurassic Park and the television series ER; http://www.amazon.com/State-Fear-Michael-Crichton/...

   At one time, both the pseudoscientific geocentric notion of the universe (that the Earth lies at the center of the solar system) and ... all » eugenics (the racial theory to “purify” the human race) were widely accepted by leaders in science, politics, journalism, and business.

   Such theories were pushed by powerful interest groups that possessed highly politicized agendas driving government policies and public opinion, until ultimately both theories were disproved. Is environmental debate today, including global warming, bio-technology, and other issues, based on science or politics? Are popular accounts of such issues rooted in science or phantom risks? Are government policies focusing on the trivial while ignoring the real, and in the process wasting limited resources, crippling human innovation to address true dangers, and inviting tyranny?

   In discussing not just environmental issues but the increasing politicization of science itself, best-selling author Michael Crichton examines the intersection of media, politics, and science, inspiring viewers to challenge old assumptions and to search beneath the surface of issues as they seek to discover the truth.

   Scientists Bruce Ames (U.C. Berkeley), Sallie Baliunas (Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics), William Gray (Colorado State U.), and Oregon State Climatologist George Taylor show how scientific debates have been politicized by appealing to the fears of an uninformed public.

   Posted 16 years ago #
2. truthmod
   Administrator

   This is bullshit. You are so deluded if you believe this crap. Dem, why do you check in to our forum periodically to post this stuff?

   Is environmental debate today, including global warming, bio-technology, and other issues, based on science or politics? Are popular accounts of such issues rooted in science or phantom risks?

   Can you say DOUBLESPEAK.

   Are government policies focusing on the trivial while ignoring the real, and in the process wasting limited resources, crippling human innovation to address true dangers, and inviting tyranny?

   I agree with this but I don't think Crichton means it in the true way. He should be talking about terrorism instead of environmentalism.

   Phantom risks? What, like these:

   'Only 50 years left' for sea fish
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6108414....

   Amazon rainforest 'could become a desert'
   http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/amazon-ra...

   So you think all these stories are 'politicized,' and the truth is that we should trust in capitalism and industrialism?
   http://www.truthmove.org/news-category/environment...

   And he's talking about how Chernobyl deaths are grossly overestimated and that there were only 56!?

   http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/chern...

   A new Greenpeace report has revealed that the full consequences of the Chernobyl disaster could top a quarter of a million cancer cases and nearly 100,000 fatal cancers.

   UN accused of ignoring 500,000 Chernobyl deaths
   http://www.guardian.co.uk/ukraine/story/0,,1739339...

   Posted 16 years ago #
3. giveback
   

   I have a feeling that some of these people will not be satisfied until we can chuck nuclear waste on the curb. And the like. Until then, no liberty!!!

   Posted 16 years ago #
4. truthmod
   Administrator

   At the end of the video, Crichton explains how complex the environment is and how our efforts to understand or "manage" it are just folly. Great message.

   His use of the Yellowstone "management" disaster is entirely propagandistic. Crichton is a rhetorical scam artist.

   Posted 16 years ago #
5. truthmover
   Administrator

   Here's a quote from Amazon.com. Enviro-terrorists? Hah!!! So we need to fear environmentalists more than environmental destruction? Ridiculous!

   Crichton dramatizes his message by way of a frantic chase to prevent environmental terrorists from wreaking widespread destruction aimed at galvanizing the world against global warming. A team lead by MIT scientist/federal agent John Kenner crosses the globe to prevent the terrorists from calving a giant Antarctic iceberg; inducing terrible storms and flash floods in the US; and, using giant cavitators, causing a Pacific tidal wave. Behind the terrorists lurks the fantatical, fund-seeking chief of a mainstream environmental group; on Kenner’s team, most notably, is young attorney Peter Evans, aka everyman, whose typically liberal views on global warming chill as Kenner instructs him in the truth about the so-called crisis.

   Hey Dem, do you or do you not support the promotion of fear? This book is totally hypocritical in its critique of fear-mongering as it does precisely that. Don't you see that?

   By the way, Crichton just like Clancy is rather famous for writing books that support mainstream industrial/military interests. Don't you know that? Or is any source that supports your position equally valid?

   How'd you like "9/11: Ripple Effect?" VonKleist thinks it was an inside job. Must be on our side, huh?

   Posted 16 years ago #
6. truthmover
   Administrator

   To be a bit more responsible regarding Dem's posting of this here, as he has not demonstrated in the past a willingness to logically debate this issue, I would refer him to the following:

   http://www.truthmove.org/content/2008-declaration/

   The declaration may relate specifically to 9/11 truth, but its also a fairly accurate representation of the 'standards and strategies' of TruthMove.

   Posted 16 years ago #
7. DBLS
   Inactive

   "This is bullshit. You are so deluded if you believe this crap. Dem, why do you check in to our forum periodically to post this stuff?"

   Why are you getting so stressed out over a dissenting voice like that? You've got pretty much got the entire media behind "man-made" global warming, you've the Rothschilds, Rockefellers and the Club of Rome, the UN, and you’ve got the British Government and now Bush. It is YOU who's deluded my friend, you've bought into very sophisticated propaganda that uses people's fundamental instinct to help and protect the environment and then co-opt that to further an agenda for more state control over the people, and eventually the groundwork through global taxes for a world government. They want to remotely control people's thermostats now! Hello! It's all about getting us used to taking orders and you guys defend this stuff in a very dogmatic and fanatical manner, which alone should suggest that you need to reassess things.

   Posted 16 years ago #
8. truthmod
   Administrator

   Dem, we have acknowledged that your arguments have some merit as to the motivations of the elite and their usurpation of these issues to increase their control. You have rarely, if ever, shown a rational capacity to look at the facts of the environmental crisis. You only seem to continue to post deceptive, ideological, emotion and denial based arguments as to why WE SHOULDN'T BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRISIS.

   Your ignorance and stubbornness angers me. But I did provide rational, scientific backing for my arguments, as I almost always do. Yet you continue to ignore these sources.

   Posted 16 years ago #
9. chrisc
   Member

   You've got pretty much got the entire media behind "man-made" global warming, you've the Rothschilds, Rockefellers and the Club of Rome, the UN, and you’ve got the British Government and now Bush.

   This isn't really true -- they are not doing anything to address the problem -- generating lots of hot air doesn't count -- they are part of the problem not part of the solution.

   I've started reading stuff on this site, http://www.realclimate.org/ and it's clear that people like James Hansen don't have support from the likes of Bush in their efforts to raise the alarm over the very serious crisis we are all facing.

   Posted 16 years ago #
10. DBLS
    Inactive

    "You have rarely, if ever, shown a rational capacity to look at the facts of the environmental crisis."

    I have posted tons of factual scientific material that is counter to "the consensus", here's one:

    Climate Momentum Shifting: Prominent Scientists Reverse Belief in Man-made Global Warming - Now Skeptics

    http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=...

    "You only seem to continue to post deceptive, ideological, emotion and denial based arguments as to why WE SHOULDN'T BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRISIS."

    ^ And it is you who is really displaying too much emotion, ideology and denial.

    Posted 16 years ago #
11. truthmod
    Administrator

    That's from the "Inhofe EPW Press Blog."

    Warmed Over
    American Prospect: Sen. James Inhofe's Science Abuse http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/01/11/opinion/...

    The U.S. Senate's leading abuser of science has struck again. Not content with calling the notion of human-caused global warming "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people" (as he did in a July 2003 Senate floor speech), last week James Inhofe returned with an "update" on climate-change science. In his latest speech, timed to coincide with the final steps toward implementation of the Kyoto Protocol (which the United States won't be joining), Inhofe asserted that "put simply, man-induced global warming is an article of religious faith." Clearly, he hasn't changed his tune.

    Dem, please, just give it up. At least here. You're welcome to find an Alex Jones fansite and forum where you can revel in this stuff.

    Posted 16 years ago #

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