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  1. Arabesque
    Member

    Kennebunkport Warning Controversy

    There is significant controversy over this "warning" at 911blogger. I have compiled many different comments to try and get a sense of what is going on. At least two have claimed their signatures were taken from something else and put on this warning. You can read it here:

    http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/08/kennebunk...

    Posted 17 years ago #
  2. truthmover
    Administrator

    Yeah, I was looking into this. Bottom line: Its not news until it is. If even one of those people indicates that they didn't sign the letter, the document is a forgery. And that's the first thing that any good journalist would want to confirm BEFORE reporting on it.

    I'm kind of hoping that the author comes out claiming it is a forgery, and meant to be a lesson for the movement about the nature of evidence. But that would be very optimistic of me. Are a lot of people thinking this might be legit? Should I?

    Posted 17 years ago #
  3. Arabesque
    Member

    Bad news...

    I think one of the signers is part of the hoax.

    Craig Hill appears to be part of the hoax stating, “the immediate aim of the militarization of space via nuclear weapons and other exotic dangers orbiting Earth, pointing down and controlling entire societies under threat they, too, may suffer that which Dr Judy Wood persuasively suggests occurred in NYC on 9/11.”

    http://www.911blogger.com/node/10925#comment-15899...

    Jim Fetzer created a press release that includes his scholars group as signing the warning.

    Jim Fetzer was interviewed by Tarpley a few days after creating the warning. It all looks like a setup to me. http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/08/kennebunk...

    I think this is a sophisticated Cointelpro operation. I'm very concerned that we haven't see the worst yet.

    Posted 17 years ago #
  4. Arabesque
    Member

    To Whom It May Concern:

    Each of us were approached during the rally at the Kennebunkport event on August 25, 2007, to sign a statement calling for the immediate impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney. Since then, the statement has been altered and posted on the internet, making it appear as if we have evidence that this administration will carry out a "false-flag terror operation."

    None of us have such evidence, and therefore, none of us signed a statement stating that we do.

    We wish the authors of the document well in continuing much needed investigations of all aspects of 9/11. Signed:

    Jamilla El-Shafei Cindy Sheehan Dahlia Wasfi Ann Wright

    http://www.911blogger.com/node/10997

    Posted 17 years ago #
  5. truthmod
    Administrator

    That's very big of these people. It's almost like the perpetrators (hoaxsters) wanted to alienate these people from 9/11 truth, but they failed. Cindy Sheehan is a serious ally; she has endorsed the legitimacy of 9/11 questioning. And she/her organization have also endorsed the General Strike on 9/11/07.

    This COINTELPRO stuff is getting out of hand, but it's all to be expected with the coming anniversary.

    Posted 17 years ago #
  6. Victronix
    Member

    Anyone who associates with, has as a conference participant or supports Fetzer at this point should be considered part of efforts to destroy things. Someone should confront Tarpley on why he's interviewing Fetzer.

    Posted 17 years ago #
  7. DBLS
    Inactive

    "Anyone who associates with, has as a conference participant or supports Fetzer at this point should be considered part of efforts to destroy things."

    Exactly. Also is the guy behind this shit the same guy who came up with this website and radio spot?;

    http://www.actindependent.org/

    http://911blogger.com/node/10312

    Posted 17 years ago #
  8. Arabesque
    Member

    We now have FIVE people who:

    1. CLAIM they did NOT sign the Kennebunk Warning
    2. Say they DID sign another document
    3. INDEPENDENTLY claim the document signed involved IMPEACHMENT
    4. SUPPORT 9/11 truth and another investigation
    5. HAVE NOT attacked the authors of this document

    On the other side we have:

    1. Multiple accusations of "liar", ad-hominems, and unproven speculations about "fearful signers"
    2. No apologies for these accusations and ad-hominems against non-9/11 truth activists.
    3. Direct support for DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS (Fetzer, Tarpley, Craig Hill (citing Judy Wood), and Morgan Stack have ALL supported DEW in some form).
    4. No indications that the signatures will be removed from the warning.

    Keeping Score here: http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/08/kennebunk...

    Posted 17 years ago #
  9. truthmover
    Administrator

    Excellent work

    Here's how this has wormed its way into affecting the General Strike. We're really cool with Michael Collins who wrote the two articles for Scoop. He's been very supportive of the strike and in many ways has done as much as anyone to make this action a big as it will be.

    I'd say that both of us got hit with a bait and switch this week. Collins decided to include the Philadelphia Platform at actindependent.org in his most recent article. The platform seems to correspond in some ways the the themes of the strike. However, I wasn't excited about this as their site was prominently promoting the future false flag angle. We all certainly know its possible, but no one has any direct proof of an upcoming attack. So I felt that their site was a bit inappropriate to be promoted along side the General Strike, which is not at all about speculation. But it didn't look so bad, and we decided not to make a case of it.

    But now look what we find at the site, just after this article gets a fair amount of hits.

    http://actindependent.org/

    A total endorsement of the significance of the Kennebunkport Warning, with no indication of skepticism. And you should note this document at the site.

    http://actindependent.org/KennebunkSupporters.pdf

    Proxy signatures or endorsements given verbally or electronically: #1 CYNTHIA MCKINNEY

    How unlikely is that!?!

    This whole episode is looking like a 'poison the well' operation meant to coincide with the 6th anniversary.

    Posted 17 years ago #
  10. Arabesque
    Member

    Well look who (is claimed to have) signed it:

    CYNTHIA MCKINNEY, Former U.S. Congresswoman, Georgia CRAIG HILL, Candidate for U.S. Congress, Vermont Green Party WEBSTER G. TARPLEY, Author JIM FETZER, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, 911scholars.org KEVIN BARRETT, MUJCA.com BILL PERRY, Veterans for Peace GERHARD WISNEWSKI, German Author on 9/11 and Terrorism YUMI KIKUCHI, Founder, Global Peace Campaign, Japan JIMMY WALTER, international philanthropist MORGAN STACK, Irish 9/11 Truth

    Craig Hill is the one who invoked Judy Wood and her space beams. See my post above.

    Who is this guy? He has hurled a lot of accusations and made some really strange comments that make me believe he is intentional CoIntelPro.

    Morgan Stack, Webster Tarpley, Jim Fetzer, and Craig Hill have ALL endorsed Directed energy weapons! http://actindependent.org/KennebunkSupporters.pdf

    I thought Jimmy Walter gave up on 9/11 truth. I guess he moved on to the next 9/11 already.

    Posted 17 years ago #
  11. Arabesque
    Member

    http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/09/latest-on...

    In an update on the controversy, we have more inflammatory and divisive comments from Webster Tarpley:

    "Most of the comments concerning the Kennebunkport Warning have avoided the main issue."

    "Adults Are Responsible For What They Sign"

    "If you choose that cop-out, what kind of a peace leader are you?"

    "They knew exactly what they were signing and, if they deny it, they are unfortunately lying. Anyone who talks of forgery or trickery in gathering these signatures is compounding that lying with slander."

    The strange insinuation that the Kennebunkport Warning is the main concern is frequently heard from those pushing it; but it is a deliberate evasion. The main issue is the fact that non-9/11 activists are being attacked. This is a black and white issue that does not require speculation about what did and did not happen.

    Yes, "adults are responsible for what they sign,", but they are also responsible for what they say. What kind of 9/11 truth "leader" attacks non-9/11 truth activists as "liars" and "wretched individuals"? Certainly not one that I will support.

    No less than five individuals have not only denied signing this document, they claim that they signed another document involving impeachment. Think about that for a second. Webster Tarpley has quite a conspiracy theory here: not only did these anti-war activists claim they didn't sign the document, they had the exact same story about what they DID sign--a resolution involving impeachment. Did these signers all decide to join together, deny signing the document, and then come up with the exact same story about what they did sign? This conspiracy theory on its face seems very implausible.

    Posted 17 years ago #
  12. Arabesque
    Member

    Latest Development:

    Four of the "warners" have ties to LaRouche. LaRouche has a history of encouraging violence against activist groups.

    Of these, some of them are among the four promoting DEW.

    Who is Lyndon Larouche? http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2143&...

    The Kennebunkport Warning Hoax investigation http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2123&...

    Posted 17 years ago #
  13. Arabesque
    Member

    Latest Development:

    Webster Tarpley calls "Arabesque" and Truthaction "disinfo" http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2176

    Posted 17 years ago #
  14. truthmover
    Administrator

    More:

    Just got the following e-mail:

    <<No Work - No School - No Shopping - Tell Everybody - Hit the Streets

    US Senate Candidate Leland Lehrman, Mother Media and affiliated organizations will join in solidarity with the International 9/11 General Strike on the Santa Fe Plaza at Noon, Tuesday, September 11th.

    Following speeches and music, we will march to the downtown offices of Senators Domenici and Bingaman. Please join us.

    The International General Strike has been called in response to the ongoing danger to the Republic and the world posed by the Bush/Cheney Administration. Common themes of the strike will be:

    1. The need for impeachment to end the illegal occupation of Iraq, prevent the looming war with Iran, and avoid martial law at home.
    2. The need for a real 9/11 investigation rather than the existing imperial war propaganda.
    3. The problem of undue and unhealthy corporate influence on government.
    4. The need for nationwide paper ballot elections.

    Lehrman and Mother Media also endorse the Kennebunkport Warning of actindependent.org :

    "To the American people, and to peace loving individuals everywhere: Massive evidence* has come to our attention which shows that the backers, controllers, and allies of Vice President Dick Cheney are determined to orchestrate and manufacture a new 9/11 terror incident, and/or a new Gulf of Tonkin war provocation over the coming weeks and months. Such events would be used by the Bush administration as a pretext for launching an aggressive war against Iran, quite possibly with nuclear weapons, and for imposing a regime of martial law here in the United States. We call on the House of Representatives to proceed immediately to the impeachment of Cheney, as an urgent measure for avoiding a wider and more catastrophic war. Once impeachment has begun, it will be easier for loyal and patriotic military officers to refuse illegal orders coming from the Cheney faction. We solemnly warn the people of the world that any terrorist attack with weapons of mass destruction taking place inside the United States or elsewhere in the immediate future must be considered the prima facie responsibility of the Cheney faction. We urge responsible political leaders everywhere to begin at once to inoculate the public opinion of their countries against such a threatened false flag terror operation."

    *Kennebunkport Warning Evidence Dossier: http://actindependent.org

    911 General Strike Info: http://strike911.org New York 911 Truth 5 Day Event: http://wearechange.org San Francisco 9/11 Event: Power to the Peaceful: http://powertothepeaceful.org>>

    We appreciate the participation and endorsement, but can't say I'm thrilled about the strike being promoted along side the Kennebunkport Warning...again!

    Posted 17 years ago #
  15. Diane
    Member

    Arabesque wrote:

    Latest Development:

    Four of the "warners" have ties to LaRouche. LaRouche has a history of encouraging violence against activist groups.

    Of these, some of them are among the four promoting DEW.

    Who is Lyndon Larouche? >http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2143&...

    Thanks for the info. The above page contains a reference to an online book about LaRouche:

    Lyndon LaRouche and the New American Fascism By Dennis King http://www.justiceforjeremiah.com/content/case/kin...

    of which I personally found the following page especially fascinating:

    The Great Manchurian Candidate Scare http://www.justiceforjeremiah.com/content/case/den...

    describing some LaRouche antics in the late 1970's which would seem to have been a precursor of the "recovered memory" and "Satanic ritual abuse" scares of the 1980's. (The latter is a good example of irrational conspiracy theories.)

    Posted 17 years ago #
  16. Arabesque
    Member

    [~1:10:20] TARPLEY: Who opposes the Kennebunkport warning? We discovered going through this that if you take all the slanderous filth, counter-organizing, disinformation and so forth, about two-thirds of it comes from about half a dozen people as far as I can see. And let's tell you who they are. First of all, you have to look at the site called truthaction.org. As far as I can see about two-thirds of the site appears to be devoted to slanders and vilification of the Kennebunkport Warning. This shows what one can only call the typical style of the counter-gang. In other words it takes elements from lots of people's work including my own. They talk about truth squads, they have a candidate tracker, they talk about a general strike, they take things from Ron Paul, they take things from We Are Change, but then they mix in a huge dose of anonymous slander, vilification, denigration, calumny, libel, and defamation. The leading poison pen seems to be an individual called Cosmos. Now this I think is extremely objectionable. Here is somebody who will not tell you his real name but he demands the right to be a poison pen. Anonymous slanders are his stock and trade. He wants to slander you and vilify you from the shadows, spread disinformation, distortions. These are the venom-mongers, the merchants of pus who like to operate from behind the scenes. These are the wreckers and saboteurs, and of course the question is posed: Is this COINTELPRO? Is this the conform of the FBI counter-gang? Those are interesting questions. I can't answer them, but they are very interesting.

    Then we have somebody else called Colonel Jenny Sparks in quotation marks. She shows herself as a cartoon figure prancing in an abbreviated costume before the Union Jack. Another poison pen slanderer, another wrecker and saboteur. The only questions we have are, is this COINTELPRO, is this the current style of the FBI counter-gang?

    So here we have Cosmos who shows you he looks like he's trying to imitate Che Guavara or a member of the Sons of David baseball team. He's hiding behind a huge beard, looks like the Italian aviators in A Night at the Opera. He's got this army fatigue cap pulled down over his eyes so you can't see him, he might as well be anonymous. Jenny Sparks completely anonymous.

    Michael Wolsey, Visibility 9/11. He appears of course in shades, he's got some cool shades on, he doesnt want you to see him. Remember visibility911.com is not the same as 911visibility.org. 911visibility.org is a reputable website, you have Janice Matthews and many others who work there. This is visibility911.com with Michael Wolsey.

    Another person who has been active in these slander operations is somebody called Arabesque. Arabesque has a blog devoted to discussing 9/11 news research and disinformation, and I think the disinformation department is absolutely admirable. He seems to have all the disinformation you could want. He's pushing it and peddling it on this sleazy, smelly website. So thats arabesque911.blogspot.com.

    http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5941#...

    Posted 17 years ago #
  17. Diane
    Member

    What do people here think of the information Tarpley presented yesterday as evidence of a possible/likely forthcoming false flag attack? I would be interested to see a critique.

    Posted 17 years ago #
  18. truthmod
    Administrator

    He spent some time speaking about nuclear weapons. He said that that we can assume from the recent missing nuclear missile mishap that there's some sort of massive program going on and that maybe a nuclear bomb will be dropped on an American city.

    I was not convinced by his "evidence." Another false flag is always possible, war with Iran is possible, but this doesn't make me trust Tarpley.

    Posted 17 years ago #
  19. Victronix
    Member

    Does anyone know if Cynthia McKinney ever said anything one way or the other about her signature on the KW?

    Posted 17 years ago #
  20. JohnA
    Member

    Can someone direct me to a credible source (or ANY source) for the 'missing nuke' rumor?

    yes - i find the nuclear 'accident' extremely disturbing. one must assume that there are multiple redundant layers of security associated with america's nuclear arsenal – so I find it highly unlikely that nukes can ‘accidentally’ be loaded onto a plane and moved around. The concept is absurd.

    I find it equally disturbing the this administration would be irresponsible enough to announce that they are taking down our air defenses this Friday. Why in hell would they announce such a thing?

    But where is the ‘missing nuke’ rumor coming from? This is an extremely irresponsible rumor to spread if it is not based on a verifiable source. And – Tarpley’s claim that this is preparation for dropping a nuke on an American city is exponentially even more irresponsible – and one perfect example of why the 911 Truth movement gets labeled as ‘conspiracy theorists.’ He is extrapolating the most horrific scenario possible from a very narrow set of facts.

    The ‘nuclear accident’ could have been an intentional signal to Iran that America is moving its nukes around. It could be part of an ongoing psyop campaign to bring pressure to bare on Iran. All of these rumors that America is planning to attack Iran is not an accident.

    Someone should contact Bob Bowman and get his opinion on this. He is an expert on American air defenses and could give us an authoritative quote – as opposed to all the speculation that is circulating.

    Posted 17 years ago #
  21. Victronix
    Member

    Just noticed that Barrett is to appear with Cindy Sheehan at the Boston Tea Party. Interesting that the person defending Tarpley's description of her as a liar is now put on stage with her. Isn't this how it always works?

    http://boston911truth.org/teaparty/#schedule

    Posted 16 years ago #
  22. Arabesque
    Member

    This is what Barrett said on his website:

    Forgery is a serious crime, and falsely accusing someone of forgery is an even more serious crime. Yes, I think Webster Tarpley made a terrible mistake by accusing his misguided, ignorant, badly mistaken opponents on this issue of being infiltrators. Webster should apologize forthwith. But Tarpley’s ill-considered accusation is nothing next to the mendacious fraud accusations put forth by the four regretful signatories. It is they, far more than Tarpley, who must apologize quickly if they want to retain any credibility. Frankly, if I were one of the Warning’s organizers, I would be strongly considering legal action. The possibility of cointelpro involvement in this affair is not to be dismissed. It is hard to imagine how anyone could be so stupidly unethical as to make transparently false accusations of forgery without some form of pressure having been applied. That pressure could come from threats; or, more likely, from “nice antiwar friends” from the foundation-funded pseudo-left... the kind of people professional 9/11 coverup agent Chip Berlet hangs out with. Cindi Sheehan and her foundation-funded fake-peace-movement “friends” are easy targets for this kind of manipulation by professional psy-oppers. Wake up, Cindi! Anyone who takes foundation money is on the CIA payroll. The foundation-funded “left” magazines, radio shows, and organizations are CIA propaganda outlets. It really IS that simple.

    http://www.mujca.com/smokinggun.htm

    Posted 16 years ago #
  23. Arabesque
    Member

    Barrett:

    Anyone who takes foundation money is on the CIA payroll

    Here's Barrett taking foundation money:

    Kevin returns to Madison this semester after spending the past year in Morocco conducting dissertation research on a Fulbright 11-E fellowship. http://african.lss.wisc.edu/allnews/FALL-00/studne...

    Sponsored by the United States Department of State, the Fulbright Program provides funding for students, scholars, and professionals to undertake graduate study, advanced research, university teaching, and teaching in elementary, and secondary schools. http://www.iie.org/Template.cfm?section=Fulbright1

    Posted 16 years ago #
  24. Victronix
    Member

    He's tried to revise his "Amy" comments, I would imagine because it's caused him some trouble, but the rest of the pages on his site, that I can see, remain unchanged.

    Posted 16 years ago #

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