WeAreChange+Infowars+Loose Change just announced:
http://www.wearechange.org/91107/9-8-07/
Funny, they have Daryl Bradford Smith ("9/11 Was a Zionist Job") as a featured (proposed) speaker on the above page. http://www.iamthewitness.com/ http://www.truthmove.org/forum/topic/530?replies=1...
And Ed & Elaine Brown (the tax activist standoff people) join the bill to further cement the conservative demographic.
wow, any group that invites Daryl Bradford Smith - to an event in NYC??? - is really off the deep end. DBS attacks every single person in the movement as crypto-zionists or cryto-Jews except Bollyn & Hufschmidt, so anyone who would invite him to a 9/11 event in NYC apparently has no idea of what he does. Or they do, and the goal is something else entirely.
I note the phrases -
"Globaist Agenda"
"Grand Infowarrior"
"Occult Globalization"
"The home of NBC, the epicenter of evil"
"No better place for action than Ground Zero"
I wonder how many first responders or families they are raising money for would approve of iamthewitness ("crypto-Jew") or the "illuminati" "globalists" sense of this event. Sad to see how many family members are involved, but I have to assume they don't have the whole picture or are just trying to be supportive to raise money in the fundraiser.
Wow, have you ever clicked on Jack Blood's site? How nutty can it get?
Here's my question. Why don't more people do their homework? Why do people sign on to participate in or endorse events coordinated by people who hope to feature DBS? How can these people be so passive about the associations they make? He's just a proposed speaker, but his name on that list certainly sends a message to anyone who knows about him. People are jumping into this action I think in large part simply because it is likely to be big. Quantity winning out over quality once again. Hype vs. substance. People follow the money, and the 'big tent' wins again.
Well WE'RE not going to be saddling up with Alex Jones to head off the NWO. And we won't be promoting or critiquing the final cut of Loose Change until we have seen it. And I don't need a Grand Infowarrior, thank you. So little humility. So little objectivity. This will be a circus under a big tent, and it appears that Alex Jones is the ring leader. We've had that go along to get along attitude in regard to larger events in the past, assuming that large numbers of people in one place draw attention. But, in addition to DBS, this event is so explicitly Libertarian in its themes that we can't endorse participation or attendance, even if they are raising money for the first responders. We'll just keep promoting NeverAbandon.com, which they have all ignored.
And I don't need a Grand Infowarrior, thank you.
How dare you!
Daryl Bradford Smith has been removed as far as I can tell. I got a screen capture unless anyone doesn't believe it was up there...
They'll probably be commended by the movement for having such great judgment.
G. Edward Griffin is still on the list as a proposed speaker.
Mr. Griffin is the illustrious author of such screeds as "This is the John Birch Society;: An invitation to membership" and various other right-wing conspiracy books.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-ur...
Another proposed speaker is David Bay from "Cutting Edge Ministries," an anti-Illuminati and Freemasonry organization:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/fmcorner.html
http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/cuttingedge....
The Cutting Edge is another Rapture Cult website that is making substantial inroads into Remnant circles. In what could be dubbed the Second Wave, this site represents a rather dangerous form of Rapturism in that such "ministries" have adapted themselves so that they appear more like the true Remnant ministries that have had some success in the last few years in drawing people out of the Whore of Babylon.
A writer named David Bey is the driving force behind the site. In his literary output, he borrows heavily from those outside the mainstream in that he writes on `flashy' subjects such as UFO's, the Nephilim, the New World Order, and so forth. With this topical subject matter, few suspect that he is just as mainstream as say, Hal Lindsey. Worse yet, Bay is clearly willing to hide the Cult belief system that underpins his ministry in order to draw in more adherents.
Alan Watt is another:
http://ready4mainstream.ny911truth.org/
Somehow I'm doubting that Fetzer and Pepper will be fond of sharing the stage.
Someone needs to contact Pepper. I don't have contact info but Michael Wolsey probably does.
I emailed Richard Gage to check in as I doubt he's seen this line-up.
Anyone else sane on that list should also be contacted -- they probably don't even know.
If we had a venue in NYC, we'd be happy to invite Pepper and the rest of the reasonable people to talk at a whacko-free and disinfo-free event. Any suggestions out there?
New event sponsored by NY911Truth: Craig Ranke, Citizen Investigation Team, Researcher and Co-Creator of The PentaCon
One of the Pentagon Flyover Hoax promoters. He even ignores the fact that his own witnesses say the plane hit the Pentagon.
I have seen some signs that Dylan Avery may be shifting views on the Pentagon.
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/ind...
Perhaps this could have something to do with the fact that Alex Jones is a producer of LCFC. Here's what he has to say about the Pentagon:
Pentagon Video Is Giant Psy-Op: Intended to create circus of interest around 'no plane' theories, later debunk them http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/16050...
Then we'll just have to contend with the "there were no hijackers at all" meme.
It would be great if you could grab a venue since most of these people will have already booked flights.
http://www.wearechange.org/91107/
When did they add the voice over? It really scares me actually. The sixth anniversary of 9/11 is not a monster truck rally or a heavy metal concert.
Someone should try contacting Michael Wolsey for Robin Hordon as well. He was on his radio show. I'll do this if no one has contacted Michael Wolsey yet.
Ummm. Is anyone in the movement listening? Do you see how inappropriate and disrespectful the voice over on this site is? http://www.wearechange.org/91107/
Is this event even about 9/11 truth? Or is just a right wing macho libertarian fest of occult globalization and taxation activists.
Is anyone in the movement listening?
Here's something I recommend. It's a very short video of one of the speakers featured at the "Ready for Mainstream" NYC event -
Preview of Interview with Alfred Webre http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5121693417...
"Alfred Webre – Attorney, organizer of International Tribunal on 9/11" http://ready4mainstream.ny911truth.org/
Maybe we can wake some people up with this?
I notice that April Gallop and Dr. Faiz Kahn (9/11 Truth board) are now added to the list at that event with Webre. But notice that the "speakers" listing mentions nothing about Webre's main focus of work with the issue of the control of extraterrestrial technology, only the inclusion of the phrases "space activist" and "futurist" -
Alfred Webre – Attorney, organizer of International Tribunal on 9/11
Alfred Lambremont Webre, J.D., M.Ed. (b. May 24, 1942 on a U.S. Naval Air Station) is an author, lawyer (member of the District of Columbia Bar), futurist, peace activist, environmental activist, and a space activist who promotes the ban of space weapons. He was a co-architect of the Space Preservation Treaty and the Space Preservation Act that was introduced to the U.S. Congress by Congressman Dennis Kucinich and is endorsed by more than 270 NGO's worldwide. He is a judge on the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal [3], and is the International Director of the Institute for Cooperation in Space. He is currently working on an Intrernational Tribunal to investigate 9/11 as a war crime.
http://www.911blogger.com/node/10788
Very high budget! Very shocking! Between this and the audio at the site, I'd say that this event has been pretty well packaged for one narrow demographic group.
I am not supportive the grand illusionist quality of this promo video. It is of the hype and distraction that a member of the 9/11 Truth Movement may wonder about the promo's ultimate purpose.
The promo appears to deflect the fear that most 9/11 Truthers have, that we don't have enough members, we don't have a great enough effect, and if anything, we always have to deal with a great deal of ridicule. This all could hurt the ego.
Exactly where the need of a "Grand Infowarrior" comes in.
I hope 9/11 Truth doesn't end up having secret rites in exclusive groves.
Peggy Carter plugging Nico. Its too embarrassing to quote.
http://www.newyorkny911truth.org/cgi-bin/forum/Bla...
Interestingly she reminds us of the influence that Mark Dice and The Resistance Manifesto have had on many in our local groups.
All very troubling.
Here's Morgan Stack, backer of Fetzer's 911scholars and an avid Morgan Reynolds promoter, hosting an event for DRG in Ireland and what do you know, there are now public acusations of anti-semitism flying and the venue is refusing to host the event.
When will Griffin get it? Last year on 9/11 it was he and Shayler appearing. Now he's being called anti-semitic. But who couldn't have predicted such crap from just one look at the website. That kind of accusation can shut down every venue in his near future for quite a distance and create more muddy waters to discredit the rest of us.
Someone in Ireland Indymedia posted this screen save of a statement by "Captain Eric May" who appeared on Barrett's show apparently and who was featured on Morgan Stack's 911truth.ie -
http://ie.indymedia.org/attachments/may2007/morgan... embedded here - http://ie.indymedia.org/article/82481?condense_com... references this page - http://www.911truth.ie/plus-emails/plus86.html which references this page - http://mujca.com/captain.htm
It's easy for the detractors and official story defenders to win with this stuff, numerology, DEW and Morgan Reynolds.
Slick updated website: http://www.wearechange.org/
At least now they give you the option of turning off the voice over.
Christine Ebersole?
Now added to the ready4mainstream event -
Bob McIlvaine – Family Member Ellen Mariani - Family Member
Only former Air Traffic Controller Robin Hordon has dropped off of the list.
Just noticed that Peter Thottam and Faiz Khan are also off the list, two people I had contacted but didn't hear from again -- I guess they had other plans! They couldn't have done a debunking anyway. I sent an email to another person today.
The anniversary event in LA . . . pods and no planes front and center. Someone should try to contact Ed Asner, or at least Code Pink, etc. -- I can't imagine any peace groups support "pods." If you haven't yet watched "Ripple Effect," I recommend it.
Sixth Anniversary Candlelight Ceremony & Call to Action
Please join 911truthLA.us and media sponsor KPFK with religious leaders and co-sponsors: Code Pink, 'Arlington West' Project, Los Angeles National Impeachment Center, Westside Greens, Marines for 9-11 Truth, SD911truth.org, Unplug for Peace, US Tour of Duty, AddictedToWar.com, Office of the Americas, peacewrks.com for:
A commemoration and convergence recognizing all that has been lost on and since 9-11 justified by the events of that day... including 32 victims from Southern California . . .
Featuring film and musical tributes. Hear the legendary Ed Asner and radio talkshow host / filmmaker Dave Von Kleist who will premiere segments from his new film 911 Ripple Effect along with special guests Gina Belafonte, Mimi Kennedy, and Blase Bonpane. 6 to 10PM on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at Immanuel Presbyterian Church, 3300 Wilshire Blvd. Los Angeles [map]. Information and media - 310-927-5966. $15 donation - no one turned away. http://www.911truthla.us/drupal/
When in the world did Dave VonKleist regain any credibility, not that he really ever had any, and who arranged for his presence? I do think that we should contact some of these people about the problem. This is becoming a regular activity. Perhaps we could start a small coalition around this very task. Those devoted to informing people within the movement about our problem areas. And maybe, instead of addressing this issue each time it comes up, we should write some kind of statement about those people and organizations that have a track record of promoting fallacy.
TruthMove put up our Disinfo page trying to do this, but the concerns expressed there, and by many here, are not being considered or recognized by many within and surrounding the movement. No Jim Fetzer. No Rick Siegel. No Dave VonKleist. They each have a well established reputation for presenting fallacy. They do not in any way represent what is strong about this movement.
CHANGE's 9/11 Ground zero banner policy:
Disclaimer: This year on 9/11/07 at Ground Zero we are going to have a peaceful vigil in the memory for the ones lost on 9/11 and all the 1st Rescue Responders who are being lost now. This is not a protest or a demonstration; it’s a peaceful vigil where we will remain quiet with out anything but our black Investigate 9/11 T-Shirts standing together, with some of the family members and rescue workers who are sick of the 6 years of lies. This means NO BANNERS, SIGNS or POSTERS! There will be plenty of opportunity at other street actions to have these. Anyone acting disruptively or inappropriate will not be tolerated by everyone else and asked to leave. The time of the memorial shall remain as peaceful and calm as possible. WeAreCHANGE is comprised of 9/11 victims family members and ill 9/11 1st Responders who demand a new independent investigation.
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