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  1. truthmod
    Administrator

    Sacred Lifeboats...Peak Oil, Survival, and Community...

    Interesting stuff here...

    Sometimes I think we should be spending more of our time in these kinds of endeavors---looking towards survival and the future and not exclusively in trying to wake up a stubborn populace. And who knows what happens if they do "wake up" (to varying degrees)? It may not be so pretty...

    It often seems that many of the more rational, skilled, and disciplined people who have gone down the 9/11 rabbit hole, have moved on to Peak Oil, and ultimately, to thinking about and actualizing sustainable communities.

    Is 9/11 Truth still a halfway, denial-retaining position? Is the truly rational thing to do with all this information to begin planning for escape and survival?

    http://www.sacredlifeboats.com/index.html

    http://www.sacredlifeboats.com/rabbit-hole.html

    http://www.sacredlifeboats.com/build-lifeboat.html

    Posted 17 years ago #
  2. truthmod
    Administrator

    sadly

    i guess these are not questions people are interested in. :(

    escaping nazi germany wasn't a "defeatist" or "cowardly" move.

    even if society/civilization isn't going to "collapse" that soon, why continue living in such an unhealthy, destructive, dehumanizing system? why not start working towards living the sustainable alternative? it could be done even while remaining in the US or within the city...

    at the very least, become aware of conserving resources and supporting businesses that are not destroying the world.

    Posted 17 years ago #
  3. yfhahn
    Administrator

    Actually...

    Maybe not to this kind of paradigm-shift extreme, but many people in the northeast are thinking in these terms. I know a local community nearby that is shifting towards complete self-subsistence, and my college and town really encourage local food production and sustainable living. Some people here like to talk about the "Slow Food" movement (as opposed to "Fast Food"), and other similar shifts in the way we think about food systems.

    I imagine such shifts are harder in the city, but personal change is always a good start. Here's my list:

    • I went vegetarian in January. But it's just as reasonable (and often more feasible) to just reduce your meat/animal product consumption -- say 1 less portion a day. If every American ate 1/3 less meat, that would be equivalent to 1/3 of Americans becoming veggies.

    • Switch your lightbulbs. Incandescent -> CFLs saves a lot of energy.

    • Air dry your clothes. The amount of energy used by the dryer is unacceptable considering you can just wait half a day for your clothes to dry.

    • Recycle & reduce consumption of packaging.

    • Consume less. Easier to do out in the country where there isn't easy access to goods, but honestly what products do you really need?


    This is obviously a very simple list mostly concerned with CO2 emmissions.

    The tougher questions are social--what kind of society and culture do you want to build and live in (whether or not the state "collapses")? But in reality, we should be asking these questions anyway, even without a political, environmental, or social crisis on our hands.

    And in that sense, I think truthmove's focus on education, knowledge, self-awareness and rational and respectful conversation are pretty good places to start.

    Posted 17 years ago #
  4. truthmod
    Administrator

    Great suggestions

    I fear that there are many in the "truth movement" who feel no personal responsibility to change their own ways of living. Instead, a common attitude seems to be that the problem is only external (the elite cabal behind 9/11, etc.) and there is nothing wrong with me or my life.

    • I also cut out all meat except seafood starting in January. :D I still feel guilty about contributing to "no more fish in the sea in 50 years," but at least I've made a step in the right direction.
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6108414....

    • I'm going to look into getting some energy saving bulbs very soon.

    • I always air dry at least some of my clothes to save money and energy.

    • Recycling isn't so easy here in NYC, as they basically abandoned the program several years ago (i.e. no home collection of recycling and no reasonable local alternative that I know about). But being aware of reusing packaging, not buying bottled water, etc. are good ways to address waste.

    A poor excuse that many may tell themselves or others is that that it's either or: either I'm in the city living with my conveniences or maybe one day I'll move to a farm and be totally environmentally-conscious. That's a false dichotomy. I think it mostly comes down to habits, laziness, and conditioning

    The more obvious the "bankruptcy" of the current system becomes, the more the question becomes, "How could we do things differently, what kind of society would we want to live in?"

    I hope TruthMove can continue to put these issues at the forefront. Maybe a new page or section will start to deal with these areas...

    Posted 17 years ago #
  5. truthmod
    Administrator

    Recent Peak Oil stories:

    The Peak Oil Crisis: The Summer Ahead http://www.fcnp.com/index.php?option=com_content&#...

    Oil-Mageddon http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/new...

    The Peak Oil Crisis: Week Twelve http://www.fcnp.com/index.php?option=com_content&#...

    Posted 17 years ago #

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