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Pelosi attacker's partner / friend (?) was in SF 911 truth (2 posts)

  1. mark
    Member

    I haven’t been to any "SF 911 truth” events in a decade and a half (mercifully) but wasn’t surprised that the maniac who attacked Mr. Pelosi is partnered (or close friend?) with a disturbed woman who has been part of that organization. It is brilliant in a fiendish way for “conspiracy” to be associated in a majority of the public’s view with utter lunatics who push Qanon and similar shit, which makes even the most mild exploration of scandals seem toxic to discuss. That is a nuance that goes far beyond binary thinking … conspiracies to discredit actual conspiracies by associated them with nonsense. Perhaps the leaders of SF 911 truth were totally sincere when they invited Holocaust deniers to speak to their group and put one of the leading neo-Nazi groups in the country on the Deception Dollar (a brilliant campaign in some ways but mixing good and crap websites was a strategic mistake, at least from a truth perspective). Perhaps they sincerely believe the far right covid denial stuff they promote. Perhaps their ringleader was sincere when she told a friend of mine over a decade ago "climate change isn't real because the government controls all the weather." But their Belief System (B.S.) doesn’t make it correct, not that the adherents care, it feels good and it’s hard to admit being duped. This is in the realm of psychology, not politics. We need a vaccine that inoculates against qanonsense.

    Many scholars of fascism and totalitarian movements have noted they don't correct themselves - it requires external pressure to stop their spread (like the Soviet, US, British militaries did against the Nazis). I fear our slide will continue all the way through resource depletion, which most people will react to as symptoms without understanding of root causes. Steve Bannon was a director of the Biosphere II project in Arizona, an oil company funded effort to determine if people could isolate in domed cities away from others. (The answer, unsurprisingly, was no - we need the real biosphere, not a simulacrum.). So he understands (to what extent?) ecological overshoot and that it is accelerating, even though that is not part of the Republican (or Democratic) talking points. Pushing for more societal division and collapse instead of finding ways to move past tribal identities is evil.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. truthmod
    Administrator

    Pushing for more societal division and collapse instead of finding ways to move past tribal identities is evil.

    Sorry, Mark, but this is exactly what you seem to be doing with your complete dismissal and ridiculing of people who have any questions about the COVID narrative. People have extremely good reasons for not trusting the system.

    You are beginning to sound like Max Holland and others who decry the "corrosiveness" of conspiracy theories on our faith in institutions. Are the slaves to blame or the slavemasters?

    Maybe if the authorities didn't demonstrate clear diabolical insanity over the last century and longer, people might trust them.

    Hillary Clinton and friends may not be raping and eating babies, but they sure know how to bomb them to smithereens, starve them to death, or make sure they continue to die of poor sanitation.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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