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Iatrogenic Illness (6 posts)

1. truthmod
   Administrator

   This seems to be another controversial issue. There are respected studies that say that "medical errors" are the THIRD LEADING CAUSE of death in the US.

   I just cited this stat to someone while discussing COVID and they kind of laughed it off like, "there's no way that could be true."

   You can find websites claiming that the actual number is much lower (those defending the medical establishment) and others that is actually as high as 800-900K/year (natural medicine, chiropractic, etc. sites mostly).

   Johns Hopkins study suggests medical errors are third-leading cause of death in U.S. https://hub.jhu.edu/2016/05/03/medical-errors-thir...

   Analyzing medical death rate data over an eight-year period, Johns Hopkins patient safety experts have calculated that more than 250,000 deaths per year are due to medical error in the U.S. Their figure, published May 3 in The BMJ, surpasses the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's third leading cause of death—respiratory disease, which kills close to 150,000 people per year.

   Posted 3 years ago #
2. mark
   Member

   There is also a lot of literature suggesting this is gross exaggeration.

   Posted 3 years ago #
3. mark
   Member

   Also, it's strange that virus deniers when they get severely sick suddenly decide they want lots of medical care. It reminds me of the Tom Lehrer joke that liberals contemplating Lyndon Johnson's policies in Vietnam are like a Christian Scientist with appendicitis. Way too many stories in the past year about deniers who can't admit they have covid even when they're struggling to breathe in the hospital. As 45 said, "sad."

   Iatrophobia - fear of doctors.

   We've all experienced doctors who are not as good as some of their peers, and that's probably behind some of this. I wouldn't rely on naturopaths or chiropractors to discuss virology and pandemic mitigation.

   Posted 3 years ago #
4. mark
   Member

   At the peak last winter, covid was the number one cause of death in the USA. The rollout of vaccines reduced this and this summer's wave was largely in the unvaccinated. Denying that is flat Earth biology.

   Posted 3 years ago #
5. truthmod
   Administrator

   There is also a lot of literature suggesting this is gross exaggeration.

   Can you point me to some of this?

   Here is another article on the NIH site from 2000:

   Errors in Health Care: A Leading Cause of Death and Injury
   https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK225187/

   Sizable numbers of Americans are harmed as a result of medical errors. Two studies of large samples of hospital admissions, one in New York using 1984 data and another in Colorado and Utah using 1992 data, found that the proportion of hospital admissions experiencing an adverse event, defined as injuries caused by medical management, were 2.9 and 3.7 percent, 1 respectively. The proportion of adverse events attributable to errors (i.e., preventable adverse events) was 58 percent in New York, and 53 percent in Colorado and Utah.

   Preventable adverse events are a leading cause of death in the United States. When extrapolated to the over 33.6 million admi ssions to U.S. hospitals in 1997, the results of these two studies imply that at least 44,000 and perhaps as many as 98,000 Americans die in hospitals each year as a result of medical errors. 3 Even when using the lower estimate, deaths in hospitals due to preventable adverse events exceed the number attributable to the 8th-leading cause of death. 4 Deaths due to preventable adverse events exceed the deaths attributable to motor vehicle accidents (43,458), breast cancer (42,297) or AIDS (16,516).

   Posted 3 years ago #
6. mark
   Member

   In 2021, iatrophobia - fear of doctors - is killing more people than iatrogenic mistakes.

   In early 2021, covid became the largest killer in the USA. The start of vaccination dropped this from over four thousand a day to under one thousand. The covid vaccines are excellent at reducing disease severity but not as great for preventing transmission. (They do reduce transmission but they don't give "sterilizing immunity.")

   https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/08/13/misinfo...

   Posted 3 years ago #

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