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Alex Jones kicked off Youtube, Facebook (6 posts)

  1. truthmod
    Administrator

    I'm open to counterarguments, but I do not support this, on first-amendment grounds.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/07/business/media/...

    In a recent court filing, four law professors who specialize in free-speech issues said that Mr. Jones’s oeuvre was riddled with “absurd conspiracy theories” and urged a federal judge considering a lawsuit against him not to let him hide behind the First Amendment while publishing his rhetoric.

    “False speech does not serve the public interest the way that true speech does,” the scholars wrote. “And indeed, there is no constitutional value in false statements of fact.”

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. truthmod
    Administrator

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/04/26/alex-...

    Alex Jones has claimed several times that Facebook executives told him he would be banned from the platform for his use of the anti-trans slur “tranny.” Despite supposedly receiving these warnings, Jones has not backed down and continues to use the disparaging term on his show, which he streams on Facebook Live. Jones is a right-wing conspiracy theorist and ally of President Donald Trump with a history of anti-LGBTQ extremism.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. BrianG
    Member

    The danger of the attitude expressed by the law professors is that it puts on the court the burden of deciding what is "absurd" and what is "false". This will have a chilling effect on free speech because dissidents can not afford to litigate the facts in the higher-level courts.

    Yesterday, August 6th, I went out to the rush-hour road with a big sign that said "Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows". This was the anniversary of the famous "Bin Laden Determined the Strike in US" PDB.

    When I first developed this thesis many years ago, I was nervous not only about its intellectual validity but about the legal consequences of publicizing it. Is this libel? What if I were wrong? Is she lying if she believes that what she says is true? Is it hate speech? I went ahead in the confidence that if I were wrong, somebody would set me straight. Nobody ever did. In fact Stanford was, and is, very hospitable to my free speech rights.

    And Condi no longer throws the coin toss at football games.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. truthmod
    Administrator

    Freedom of speech should extend to outlets that are near monopolies in our "democracy."

    Taibbi: Beware the Slippery Slope of Facebook Censorship

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-fea...

    As many pointed out last week, the Jones ban was not a legal speech issue – not exactly, anyway. No matter how often Jones yelped about “Hitler levels of censorship,” and no matter how many rambling pages he and his minions typed up in their “emergency report” on the “deep state plan to kill the First Amendment,” it didn’t change the objectively true fact their ban was not (yet) a First Amendment issue.

    The First Amendment, after all, only addresses the government’s power to restrict speech. It doesn’t address what Facebook, Google, YouTube and Twitter can do as private companies, enforcing their terms of service.

    So it’s true, there was no First Amendment issue with the Jones ban. But that’s the problem.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. BrianG
    Member

    The right of private property owners such as shopping centers to regulate free speech activities such as picketing, tabling, leafleting has been the subject of a lot of litigation.

    I'm not a lawyer, but my as I understand it, if the private property is considered a public place where anyone can pass through, certain free speech rights are maintained, subject to reasonable restrictions. Those practices might translate easily into the social media platform.

    The NorCal Truth Alliance was able to bar me from their film festival because they had framed the event as a private party with a donation requested.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. truthmod
    Administrator

    Facebook purges 800+ accounts, pages pushing politics for profit

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/10/11/facebook-pu...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&...

    Posted 6 years ago #

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