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  1. mark
    Member

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LF0830IYMU

    Greg Palast and Mark Crispin Miller -- the Republicans stole the Presidential election, just like in 2004

    www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/#more-129...

    www.markcrispinmiller.com/2016/11/did-trump-win-or...

    Palast and Miller in the media - in Canada

    www.straight.com/news/827176/us-election-integrity...

    www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-calls-electoral-... In a 2012 Twitter post, Trump called the Electoral College “a disaster for a democracy.”

    http://codered2014.com/possible-election-rigging-s...

    Presidential Race

    http://codered2014.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/...

    Senate Races

    http://codered2014.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/...

    http://tdmsresearch.com/2016/11/10/2016-presidenti...

    http://leecamp.net/8138-2/

    BREAKING: New Proof The Election Was Rigged Against Democrats!

    Nov 9, 2016

    I just talked with two election experts –Greg Palast and Mark Crispin Miller – both incredibly accomplished in their fields. They agreed that this election was indeed rigged, and even though it has been Donald Trump spouting off about election rigging, perhaps he didn’t realize that the machinery was in place to rig it in HIS FAVOR. Greg Palast estimates that 1.1 MILLION people, mainly minorities, were knocked off the voting rolls in swing states using a system called “Cross Check.” That system accuses people of being “double voters” even though there is absolutely no proof. Cross Check is used in 30 Republican-led states. On top of that, Palast discovered that ballot protection software on the new Ohio voting machines was TURNED OFF. Election law expert Bob Fitrakis actually took Ohio to court last week to make sure the ballot protection software be turned ON. However, the judge sided with the state and said to leave it OFF on election day!

    Professor Mark Crispin Miller agrees with Palast, saying that this election was stolen from the Democrats in a similar fashion to 2000 and 2004. And this is not coming from a fan of Hillary Clinton. Miller pointed out that Hillary Clinton is a neo-liberal who was intent on continuing to gut the social safety net and allowing the big banks to run wild. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a fair election. Furthermore, this is not just about the Presidency. This election theft impacts congressional and gubernatorial races as well.

    I strongly believe that if Hillary Clinton – and the corporate Democrats in general – had ACTUALLY stood for something, then people would’ve had a reason to stand with them. This is why Bernie Sanders would’ve won this election easily. (He would’ve beat the margin that was stolen.) People believed what Bernie Sanders said, and that’s why he attracted an enthusiastic following. Even most Hillary voters didn’t take her at her word. Her actions proved that she supports trade deals, supports war, supports weapons contractors, supports oil and gas, and supports the big banks. If the left ever wants to win again, they need to start TRULY standing for something, rather than just feeding people lies while enriching themselves.

    The two interviews mentioned above will air tomorrow night on Redacted Tonight: VIP. At 6pm ET tomorrow they’ll also be posted to YouTube.com/RedactedTonight.

    Keep Fighting,

    Lee

    [my guess is Trump understood the rigging machinery was rigged in his favor. It's a common tactic to accuse one's opponents of the crime one is planning, a form of psychological projection.]

    If voting machines also shifted three Senate races - ranging from the very good Russ Feingold (only Senator to vote against the USA PATRIOT Act) to the awful Katie McGinty in Pennsylvania (who presided over pro-pollution policies while director of the White House Council on Environmental Quality from 1993 - 2001) - then the Democrats won majority control of the Senate, even though they don't dare challenge the rigged results.

    Saying to Trump that US elections are not ever rigged was an enormous mistake.

    www.oilempire.us/trump.html

    Donald Trump and Peak Blame

    Exit polls for Clinton, voting machines for Trump

    Obama's gift to Trump: a supersized NSA

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. truthmod
    Administrator

    Thanks for this, Mark. I take back what I said before. There is a chance that some more prevalent voices will pick this up, now that it's actually Trump who we're facing.

    I'm going to dive in and do some research...

    Even the New Yorker can now talk about the election fraud in 2004, but at the time, it was, of course, beyond the pale.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/12/21/negot...

    In 2004, when Kerry lost the Presidential race to George W. Bush, who is widely considered the worst President of the modern era, he refused to challenge the results, despite his suspicion that in certain states, particularly Ohio, where the Electoral College count hinged, proxies for Bush had rigged many voting machines.

    ...

    “For a long period, after 2004, every time he even half fell asleep all he saw was voting machines in the state of Ohio,” Mike Barnicle, a close friend of Kerry’s and a former columnist for the Boston Globe, told me. This summer, Barnicle spent time with Kerry on Nantucket, where Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz, have a house on the water and a seventy-six-foot, seven-million-dollar sailboat called Isabel. “We were sitting in the bow,” Barnicle recalled, “and we were talking about a bunch of different things—about Iran, about what the President of Iran was like—and I said, ‘Other than not being President, this is pretty good.’ There was a security boat sailing off to the side of us. Then he said, ‘Yeah, yeah, I realize how badly Shrum screwed me.’

    A few weeks ago, between Kerry’s trips to Europe and the Middle East, I had dinner with Kerry and Heinz at their house in Georgetown, a twenty-three-room mansion decorated with Early American portraits, Dutch still-lifes, and an amiable yellow Labrador retriever named Ben. (The Lab has the Twitter handle @DiploMutt.) I asked Kerry how long he carried around a sense of anger and resentment.

    “I didn’t carry it,” he insisted. “I didn’t. I didn’t. My wife was mad at me that I didn’t carry it longer.”

    From across the table, Teresa Heinz said, “I’m still carrying it.”

    The Secretary of State looked up from his halibut. An ill wind of panic swept the oblong plain of his face. From the thick thatch of gray hair to the improbably long and thrusting chin, Kerry’s visage is immense and, in its implacable resting expression, resembles one of the monolithic heads that rise from the loam of Easter Island.

    “Well, I’m not,” Kerry said.

    His gaze turned to his wife, wordlessly imploring her to keep quiet. Heinz is seventy-seven, five years older than her husband, and, in 2013, she suffered a seizure that she has attributed to an earlier concussion “that was not properly treated at all.” It’s not easy for her to get around, and she appears infrequently at public events, but she spoke clearly and ardently throughout the evening, much as she had during the 2004 campaign.

    She was not quite done. “I knew from looking at the . . .”

    Kerry uses many terms of endearment for his wife; now he called her by the telegraphic “T.”

    “T, let’s not go . . .” he said gently.

    As she tried to speak again, he shut it down.

    “T, T, we’re not . . . I didn’t want to spend time there,” he said. “I just consciously did not spend time there, and I moved on, and I moved on as rapidly as . . . It’s over. It’s behind me. . . . I could have done some things a little bit differently. We didn’t. But I’m not going to feel regret the rest of my life.”

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. mark
    Member

    www.alternet.org/something-stinks-when-exit-polls-...

    Something Stinks When Exit Polls and Official Counts Don't Match A discussion with an exit poll expert reveals an electoral house of cards. By Steven Rosenfeld / AlterNet November 14, 2016

    Media exit polls in last Tuesday's election suggested Democrats were going to win the White House and the Senate, yet the reported vote counts brought a GOP landslide. While theories abound about what happened, election integrity activists say the exit poll descrepancy underscores the need for a far more transparent and accountable process. AlterNet's Steven Rosenfeld interviewed Jonathan Simon, a longtime exit poll sleuth and author of Code Red: Computerized Election Theft and the New American Century. Simon explains why exit polls are a critical clue in the breakdown of the voting process.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. truthmod
    Administrator

    This thing is gaining steam. $2.5 million raised by Jill Stein to audit elections, MoveOn sending out emails about it...

    https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

    Corporate media are actually reporting on it:

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/23/politics/election-ha...

    I wonder what kind of chaos happens if the result is actually overturned?? Huge parties in the street and everyone relieved they can go back to life as normal under friendly fascism? Of course, I hope they actually do get Trump out of there. The Green Party is going to grow on this, either way.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. mark
    Member

    The Greens were raising over $100 thousand per hour. I'm astonished in a wonderful way. Maybe the Greens will finally become relevant.

    I'm not a fan of the idea things need to get worse to get better, but looks like a lot of people are waking up.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. mark
    Member

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/ji...

    Jill Stein raises over $3m to request US election recounts in battleground states

    Green party presidential candidate seeks donations to fund efforts in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin over ‘compelling evidence of voting anomalies’

    ( I am pleasantly astonished. )

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. truthmod
    Administrator

    http://tdmsresearch.com/2016/11/10/2016-presidenti...

    According to the exit polls conducted by Edison Research, Clinton won four key battleground states (NC, PA, WI, and FL) in the 2016 Presidential Election that she went on to lose in the computerized vote counts. With these states Clinton wins the Electoral College with a count of 306 versus 232 for Trump. Clinton also won the national exit poll by 3.2% and holds a narrow lead in the national vote count still in progress.

    Exit polls were conducted in 28 states. In 23 states the discrepancies between the exit polls and the vote count favored Trump. In 13 of these states the discrepancies favoring Trump exceeded the margin of error of the state. See Table and its footnotes below.

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    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. truthmod
    Administrator

    Much of the corporate media is ridiculing this fundraising effort. Corporate Democrats make sure to turn up their noses at Jill Stein, even as the promote the campaign and donate. The White House is supposedly very much opposed.

    Yeah, we're just supposed to "move on" like we did in 2000 and 2004 and 2008 when Obama decided to "look forward."

    Washington Post is completely dismissive:

    Why are people giving Jill Stein millions of dollars for an election recount?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. truthmod
    Administrator

    Want to Know if the Election was Hacked? Look at the Ballots

    https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to-know-if-the-e...

    Many people are also framing this as an investigation into foreign hacking of the election. I suppose that's possible, and if it helps us get a recount, so be it.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. BrianG
    Member

    $6.7 million raised. WI raises recount fee from $1 million to $3 million. Ajamu Baraka says he is opposed to the recount. Lots of dissention in the Nat'l party--apparently Dr. Stein made the decision in a rather unilateral way. Chris Hedges signs a letter of opposition.

    Ever since Hillary's group joined the effort I've been fearing that the Democrats will find a way to make the Greens look bad in all this--but we shall see what we shall see.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. mark
    Member

    More evidence that some in the Green Party revels in their irrelevancy ...

    The demand for hand counting of the ballots is the best thing the Green Party has ever done.

    If we're lucky, it might expose millions to the fact our "elections" are just as real as televised wrestling.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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