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Michael Shermer (Skeptic Magazine) (2 posts)

  1. truthmod
    Administrator

    This guy has always seemed like a disingenuous weasel to me. He was on KPFA today and debunked acupuncture, 9/11, JFK, alternative medicine, etc. His arguments were mostly fallacious and his claim to the scientific method was pathetic and unbelievable. I think he exists in order to lull those people who want to believe in the mainstream culture back to sleep. His entire message seems to be, "don't worry about it, the authorities have it under control."

    Some callers to KPFA were pathetic caricatures of irrational conspiracy theorists. Arguing about controlled demolition and not mentioning that Shermer used it as a straw man to debunk the entire thrust of 9/11 skepticism.

    Shermer's points about JFK were completely worthless.

    https://kpfa.org/episode/sunday-show-january-10-20...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. BrianG
    Member

    Notes on Shermer 1-10-16 kpfa

    The first 20 minutes reveals Dr. Shermer's intellectual history—freeing himself from dogmatic christian doctrine, dabbling in tonics to improve performance in competitive bicycling, challenging alternative medicines.

    By 24 minutes he's explaining that the towers fell because flimsy floor anchors snapped and collapsing floors created a cascading effect of pancaking floors, claiming “there's been extensive studies of this and how buildings fall.” Apparently he doesn't know that his theory, published in 2002 in FEMA's $600,000 report, was rejected by NIST's $20 million study and he is practically alone in subscribing to it.

    He then implies (wrongly) that controlled demolition is always done from the bottom up, and that since the towers collapsed from the top down, this is inconsistent with controlled demolition.

    The mysterious jets of pulverized building materials emanating from isolated windows as much as 40 stories below the active collapse zone (“squibs”) he dismisses as “smoke from the fires” even though most of these came from floors that had no fires.

    With WTC7 he blithely tells there's no mystery to its collapse, apparently unaware that the NYT said engineers were baffled by it, the FEMA report said it could not explain it, and it took NIST several years to come up with a plausible-sounding story. His claim that the steel structure sagged and got weaker from fire damage is contrary to NIST's collapse initiation mechanism, which would be impossible if the steel had sagged.

    He then argues from incredulity that explosive or incendiary charges could not have been planted in the three buildings because of the building security. Apparently he does not know that most of the buildings' core columns were accessible from the elevator shafts, and that the twin towers had an elevator renovations project going on in the towers' 15 miles of elevator shafts in the 9 months before 9/11 that would have provided cover for construction-type activity going on in the shafts. Apparently he does not know that the four floors immediately above the floor where the collapse allegedly began in WTC7 were all, according to FEMA, vacant.

    He then claims it would take hundreds of even thousands of charges to take a tower down. He does not explain why it would take so many charges to do a job that he believes was caused by fire and weak floor anchors. Anything fire can do, incendiaries can do better.

    He claims it was necessary to break through drywall to plant explosive devices, but does not explain why this is difficult, why it is necessary at the WTC, and what drywall needs to be broken. (Drywall is removed before conventional demolitions to avoid the nuisance of the dust.)

    He he then claims that the buildings began to collapse from the exact impact floors, and wonders how demolitionists would know what floors the planes would hit. In the case of WTC1, the Sauret video shows that the collapse began well above the impact zone. Radio beacons such are used at airports would if planted inside the buildings allow the planes to be flown in on the autopilot. Even if the exact impact floors were not known in advance, simply planting redundant charges up and down the elevator shafts would allow the appropriate charges to be selected under computer control for wireless activation.

    At 29 minutes they start talking about JFK. He claims first that no JFK conspiracy theorists has ever come up with a who-dunnit if it wasn't LHO, and the claims that they've come up with 20 different suspects.

    At 33 he claims that before 9/11 nobody was thinking about the possibility of such an attack. Apparently he didn't know that the al Qaeda plan to fly hijacked airliners into landmark buildings (including the Pentagon and the WTC) had been known to US authorities since 1995, and did not know that both the UK and Germany warned of upcoming attacks using hijacked commercial aircraft.

    At 35 he's claiming that the CIA is too incompetent to pull off 9/11, and people can't keep their mouth shut, and basically conspiracies are impossible.

    At 41 a questioner challenges Shermer's claims that acupuncture has been debunked.

    At 48:00 Shermer reiterates the claim of alleged impossibility of coordinating the plane strike with the demolition charges.

    53—Discussion of Alan Dulles and the JFK assassination.

    55 – Discussion of tests of the carbine and the time necessary to get off the shots.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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