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  1. truthmod
    Administrator

    http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090716-71489...

    NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--A U.S. judge has denied a motion by a group of airlines to depose several Federal Bureau of Investigation agents regarding the government's probes into the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in New York and Washington.

    In an order Thursday, U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein in Manhattan denied a motion by the airlines to question six current and former FBI agents, a potential setback for their defense.

    The judge indicated the airline defendants hoped to show at trial that the government's failure to apprehend the terrorists and stop the attacks was so considerable that it mitigates and excuses any alleged faults of the airlines and the terrorists likely would have succeeded even if the defendants had exercised due care.

    "The government's failures to detect and abort the terrorists' plots would not affect the aviation defendants' potential liability," the judge wrote. "Moreover, efforts to prove these propositions would cause confusion and prejudice, and burden court and jury with long delays and unduly lengthy trial proceedings."

    The rulings relate to three wrongful death cases and 19 property-damage cases.

    The defendants include units of UAL Corp. (UAUA), US Airways Group Inc. (LCC), Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL), Continental Airlines Inc. (CAL) and AirTran Holdings Inc. (AAI).

    A lawyer for the airlines didn't immediately return a phone call seeking comment Thursday.

    The judge did allow some of the testimony of two of the FBI agents from the trial of Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui, who is serving a life sentence - namely what they learned in their investigations.

    "Testimony as to what their superiors did or did not do is not relevant, and is not admissible," the judge said.

    The judge also denied a motion to admit the 9/11 Commission report as a whole as evidence in the case, instead only admitting the chronology provided in the report.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5...

    The government urged the judge to block the aviation companies from interviewing six current and former FBI employees who the companies say would be able to testify as to what intelligence the FBI, CIA, Federal Aviation Administration and airlines had before the attacks regarding the terrorists' plans and capabilities, as well as how the entities shared and exploited the intelligence.

    The government argued that it would be impossible to interview the employees without disclosing classified or privileged material that could cause serious damage to national security and interfere with pending law enforcement proceedings.

    The largest investigation in FBI history has resulted in 167,000 interviews and more than 155,000 pieces of evidence and involved the pursuit of 500,000 investigative leads, the government noted.

    The government said the FBI has turned over more than 33,000 pages of information to the aviation industry lawyers, including more than 10,000 pages of laboratory pictures and related information, witness interviews and descriptions of the hijackers' weapons.

    The airlines and aviation companies have said they are defending themselves against lawsuits seeking billions of dollars in damages for injuries, fatalities, property damage and business losses related to the attacks.

    The companies filed separate lawsuits against the CIA and the FBI seeking to force terrorism investigators to say whether the aviation industry was to blame for the Sept. 11 attacks.

    Lawyers for the victims of the attacks have said the FBI should not be forced to provide more information.

    Posted 15 years ago #
  2. thatsmystory
    Member

    Here is an interesting interview with two members of the FAA red team:

    http://www.onnativesoil.com/media/stevebogdan.pdf

    Helgerson's ruling seems to track with their complaints. In addition, Joe Trento brings up some other security related issues in his book Unsafe at any Altitude. For example, poor background checks for airline employees.

    I'm not sure how Helgerson can completely rule out the relevance of FBI testimony as part of airline security involves acting on information provided from intel agencies to the FAA to the airlines.

    The government argued that it would be impossible to interview the employees without disclosing classified or privileged material that could cause serious damage to national security and interfere with pending law enforcement proceedings.

    Amazing how this rationale never applies when government officials want to publish a book about 9/11.

    Posted 15 years ago #

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